Why I Refuse To Make My Blogs Dofollow
Arguments For And Against Having A ‘DoFollow’ Blog
NB and SEO will soon return with their next chat about how to make money from blogs. And one of the subjects they will be discussing will be getting backlinks from commenting on ‘dofollow’ blogs. This is one methods for getting backlinks recommended by many in the make money online business. Therefore, I will use it in NB and SEO’s continuing story.
Nevertheless, I personally have very mixed feelings about the whole concept of ‘dofollow’ commenting. I’ll tell you why. (And of course, this applies to self-hosted Wordpress blogs).
Quite a few successful money making bloggers operate a ‘dofollow’ comments policy on their blogs. Some, like JK Stokes, who writes the excellent Internet Marketing With Joe, offer even more. They use the ‘keyword luv’ plugin, which allows the person making the comment to make a backlink with their chosen keywords, while at the same time leaving their name, which is not linked, and thus they get link juice where it is wanted rather than where it is not.
Setting up your blog as ‘dofollow’ seems like a good idea for new bloggers. You can advertise your blog on dofollow lists and sit back and wait for new commenters to appear. Your hope, of course, is that many like what they read and stay around, not simply to get some ‘comment link luv’ but to become a regular member of your blogging community, adding comment content to your posts and perhaps giving you a nice keyword rich link from their own blogs. And if they sign up for your RSS feed, you can display the numbers proudly in your sidebar.
All this not only makes you feel good and recognised as a blogger with quality content, but more importantly, as well as giving out some link luv, you are getting it back and possible with a more effective link attached.
Fair enough, but is following a ‘dofollow’ comments policy worth it? How will it affect your position in the SERPs and, if you are interested in the money aspect, how will it help you make a living online? Furthermore, if you are interested in the PR aspect of all this, how will following a ‘dofollow’ comment policy affect your blog’s ranking, if at all?
Let’s be honest here. No one really knows the answers to all those questions. (I bet even Matt Cutts himself gets a little confused at times…). We can all only make educated guesses, based on our own and others’ experience. We can, if we choose, look at some of the arguments for and against using ‘dofollow’ commenting.
Arguments For Having A Dofollow Comment Policy:
- On the one hand, you have those who insist that, if you have a good anti-spam plugin in operation, together with an effective comment moderation policy, you will be fine. You can protect your blog from being overtaken by spammers and other undesirables. This may take a little more effort, but it’s worth it when you can enjoy creating a large community of commentators on your blog.
- Dofollow advocates argue there is no harm in giving away ‘google juice’ to whoever provides a relevant comment on your blog, as long as you keep an eye on where that comment is linking to.
- Some Dofollow advocates (particularly those who operate a large number of blogs) also argue the win win aspect can be utilised to set up communities of dofollow blogs (both legitimate and non-legitimate) to give each other backlinks, rather than testing Google’s patience by linking too much between your own blogs…
- Many dofollow advocates argue that if you are reasonably diligent, giving away ‘google juice’ this way will not affect you much at all.
Arguments For Having A Nofollow Comment Policy:
- At the other extreme, you can find the staunch advocates of ‘nofollow’ commenting. Many of these will also insist that you use your own name, rather than a keyword, in your comment.
- Many staunch ‘nofollow’ advocates are acutely concerned about not incurring Google’s wrath and want to act according to ‘best practices’ in every possible way and then some. This, they argue, is the only way to try to ensure your blog’s comments do not affect your ranking and your position in the SERPS.
- Staunch ‘nofollow’ advocates still want to build a community and receive relevant comments, but they are not prepared to deal with the growing stream of spam which, they argue, even the most diligent anti-spam mechanisms can let slip through the net.
- Staunch ‘nofollow’ advocates will be very concerned about the website you are linking to in your comment. If it isn’t relevant, they will delete that comment. If the comment is relevant, but your website appears ‘dodgy’, they may include your comment (after all, it adds to the relevant words on the page..), but delete your link. In some cases they may even ‘akismet’ you instead.
- However, those who advocate ‘nofollow’ are also very aware that, as their readership grows, so will their inability to control all those comments by checking and altering links. At some stage, they will be unable to moderate all their comments and will have to apply the ‘if a previous comment and not if 2 or more links’ policy. This will make them even more determined to always have the default, ‘nofollow’, in place.
- They fear that giving away ‘google juice’ in comments is a very dicey area indeed. Furthermore, they fear that soon or later Google will decide that ‘dofollow’ commenting is being used simply to get backlinks and raise search engine positions (which of course, in many cases it is). If this happens, they argue, those who use dofollow commenting may receive a ‘Google slap’.
So who is right? Those who advocate dofollow’ commenting, or those who advocate ‘nofollow’?
Personally, I think the answer is probably even more complicated than this.
I have seen JFC from Op Tempo Money Saving Guides comment on a number of blogs including his own concerning How Google May Work Out Algorithms. I cannot link directly, because I cannot find the exact posts. But this is the gist of my translation of what he was getting at (and forgive me if I misread you JFC):
Google Algorithms are complicated. Does anyone at Google really have that much control over every SEO nuance which occurs? There are too many to even contemplate a human keeping up with them. So how on earth can Google manage its ‘quality’ criteria? There has to be some form of automatic ‘quality standards’ operation involving checks and balances.
So, if, you imagine a list of boxes to tick, with a site with no boxes ticked being the ‘perfect quality site’ Google is supposed to love: the ‘well-aged’ domain with loads of unique ‘useful’ content, loads of ‘quality’ backlinks, no evidence of interlinking, no monetisation, etc…. And you imagine the ‘worst site’ in Google’s eyes, with all boxes ticked, being the absolute spam site, brand new and full of keywords and adsense and showing evidence of ’strange linking practices’, etc…
What this gives you is a ‘checking system’ that the Algorithms (who can’t see after all…) are programmed to monitor. Quite a basic set up (and open to error and abuse of course…), but one which does seem to fit a little better with what goes on in the not very benevolent eyes of the machine that is Google.
How does this idea of a ‘check list’ fit in with ‘dofollow’ versus ‘nofollow’ commenting?
Well, let’s say that we all make mistakes. We cannot watch our backs the whole time (although many of us try our damndest to). So why take chances?
- Are you sure that your ‘dofollow’ blog hasn’t anything else on ‘the check list’ to worry about?
- Have you tried to ‘tweak the rules’ in any way? (And let’s face it, even white hat SEO is tweaking the rules, or else why bother to place so much emphasis on optimisation methods at all?).
- Are you writing in niches which will immediately attract at least one tick in that check box? (and I’m not talking only about adult or pharmacy stuff here; plenty of health and make money niches fall into this category too).
- Have you always followed a strict ‘only link to relevant sites’ policy? (Or have you put in a link or two for your other, different niche sites [and worse, were they on the same IP address], or even a link to a friend or relative, ‘because it was nice to do so’?).
- Are you using your blog (or one of those you link to) deliberately to make money online (or at least you hope it will eventually)?
- Are you even sure you haven’t made other mistakes which mean little to you, but may tick off those boxes?
- And have you been doing all, or some of these things on a new domain?
After answering those questions I have decided not to ‘rock the boat’ any more than I may have already.
And that is why I prefer to keep my comments ‘nofollow’.
However, I am sure there are many who will disagree…





It does increase the moderation overhead, that’s for sure. I have a number of blogs that are ‘dofollow’ to some degree.
I’m not sure exactly how dofollow vs nofollow impacts SEO. Most of it is theory based on often conflicting search results from popular sites. I think for most sites it’s a tradeoff. You may lose some ‘perfection’ by following comment links but you’re also likely to get more incoming links as a result as well.
Thanks Frank,
Explained in two paragraphs what I took forever to write!
For me, I am not that worried about ‘perfection’ on this particular blog, which is never likely to achieve perfection anyway
I just write what is in my head and link where I want to link (although I always try to give an appropriate keyword when I do).
To tell the truth, this was going to be an angrier post about a few ‘dofollow’ people I have discovered who are not very happy with ‘nofollow’ people posting comments on their blogs.
But I decided that would be unfair…
So it ended up as more of an analysis of some of the different sides of the argument I have seen out there (and a rather long post at that!).
@ Zania: I think that this has to be one of the most anti technically, yet conceptually sound posts I’ve ever read on the subject. I felt every ounce of the mental debate while reading through it… now when an author can stir emotion, in his or her readers… they are on the right path.
I’m with you on the No Follow mantra, however it has nothing to do with spam… in my case, it’s got 99% to do with who the link juice is going to. As a resolve to the issue, I use this plugin from Joost:
http://yoast.com/wordpress/meta-robots-wordpress-plugin/
He’s a pretty good WP and SEO headbanger and the plugin works really well. It allows you to tick off a little radio button if you decide to make a particular post Do Follow.
I like to write a quality post, aimed at something specific, linking to SOLID blogs. I lump together a great article with great links and BAM! I allow the Follow to happen. However on my other less important posts… I’ll keep G Juice on lockdown.
Anyway, great article!
Thanks PB,
I’m glad I stirred some mental debate
I write just as it comes out of my head (which is why, I guess the posts are rambling at times!)
That’s a pretty neat plugin. I’m off to download it now. Thanks.
Up until this time I have been manually editing my posts. Most blogs I link to are followed, but when I link to someone I disagree with (or to a sponsor), I often insert a ‘nofollow’ tag. I will write about them, but I’m damned if I’m giving them any link juice (such as it is…).
Thanks again
I left a question on a blog just yesterday asking about how do bloggers who have the following, keep their pagerank:
dofollow enabled
top commentators widget
commentluv
keyword luv
There are several blogs i know and another few i have recently discovered, that have all of the above, and all are PR 3.
My rationality is that these blogs are able to maintain their pagerank, because they are good at backlinking. (as pagerank is all about links)
case in point: jtpratt.com
They link out, but they also work on getting good quality backlinks.
That is what i think. I have been wondering about this alot lately. As i am thinking of adding some comment tools to some of my blogs.
Let’s see what some of your others readers say.
Missy.
Oh! i have to add that as of the last update, i have become quite anal about the whole link juice thing, and even removed the blogroll list from my main blog (Groovy Vegetarian), as it is stuck at PR 2.
The blogroll on GV had gotten quite long, and i thought maybe that it was/is affecting my rank. So i totally removed it.
It is so conflicting….too much different info on what is and is not a good practice when it comes to links.
Yikes! what is a newbie to do, when those who have been at it for a year and a half, cant figure it out.
Hi Missy,
Personally I think it’s more important to worry about backlinks and content than anything else.
And jtpratt - that guy has so much content on his blog the spiders must have a field day!
That post was just kinda sorting out my ponderings on the whole ‘dofollow’ ‘nofollow’ issue. I have reasons other than pagerank to consider in doing this…
I would be very interested to see what answer is given to the question you asked though. Bet the person is still wondering exactly what to say now!
As to blogrolls, I don’t really see the point of giving away too much ‘link luv’ in your sidebar. Seems it isn’t worth that much as a site-wide link anyway in terms of juice (unless you have aton of blogs doing it of course…), so you are only mainly doing it as a ‘friendly gesture’, which, I think, can be better done as a post.
And yes, how the hell do newbies cope with all this? But that’s my point (one of them anyway…). When beginners start out trying to make money blogging, they make mistakes without realizing it. I did and still so.
I was slapped around pretty badly from the big G in my first ‘money making’ attempt and didn’t have a clue why until I began studying all this.
A lot of it is (deliberately…?) confusing though. All we can do is do our best and hope it works!
@Zania
I am totally conflicted on this lol, I hear so many great arguments for both sides of the coin. I think you covered it very well and laid out the feelings both sides have.
I know there are people who abuse the system, and, like you say, if I see someone trying to game my site..I’ll askimet them. Never thought about removing the link to their website and leaving a comment if it’s relevant, as most haven’t been quality enough for me to think about that.
The majority of comments I get are pretty quality as are the sites, however…I imagine as the site grows in popularity and eventually PR I may have more work. At that point I may leave dofollow only for the top commentators or something…I still don’t know yet.
For now, I’m riding the dofollow wave and we’ll see where it takes me. If I notice an adverse effect, I will remove it from the comments. And do it on a more specific basis.
Hi JK,
Dofollow does appear to be working well for you in terms of building up your community over at IMwithjoe. Respect
That bit about changing comments - I’ve seen comments allowed but de-linked. Never done it myself though. And I would be very wary of altering the actual comments in any way (somewhere out there on the net are copyright discussions saying you shouldn’t do that. Quite vague, but worth considering if you want to build up a large blogging community as you are beginning to).
But as you are going all out and building a very good blog there, I’ll wait to see just how your ‘dofollow’ policy goes…
I hear you! I don’t know…I wouldn’t alter any comments, but, I can see how removing the link to a non relevant site may be okay, it’s really the blog owner’s choice in that situation.
I’m in a little bit of an experiment really…imwithjoe is my documented journey in blogging and internet marketing, so, this little dofollow thing can prove to be quite an education. After the next PR update, I should be able to come to some type of conclusion…and decide accordingly.
It’s seems to be going okay except for the fact that I only have a PR 1! Though, my sites traffic and involvement has improved drastically lately so, maybe I just wasn’t good enough yet
on another note…did you get that software to working?
For a documented journey you are pulling out all the stops!
Yes, I did get that software working thanks.
But I’ve been too busy to actually get down to using it, lol!
I’m beginning tomorrow on that, after building a couple more blogs…
Well, I try, I want to be successful, but also want to put myself out there for others to learn. Sometimes that means going against the norm
I understand on the software…I opened it once but haven’t fully got into it, it looks awesome though!
A couple more blogs eh? Busy busy….
Yet another great and opinionated article from Zania. I used to be very much concerned whether the blog is dofollow or otherwise in the beginning but nowadays I have a much better toy to play with. That is the Top Commentator list.
When I heard the rumor about the impending Google PR update, I zoomed in on all those sites with high PR and aimed to be in that list and within a month or so, I increased my Technorati ranking from 200K to less than 60K and as a bonus, the big G gave me a PR3.
Remember the last conversation we have on whether outbound links will dilute our own PR? I did ask a couple of people on their blogs and the majority of them are in favor of outbound links. The truth is I’m with them, at least for now.
Now going back to the question of dofollow vs nofollow, let me just conclude it by saying that I’m really puzzled to see someone being ever so concerned about dofollow when his blog is set as nofollow. Need I say more?
Yan
Hi Yan,
glad to see you still like me being opinionated
And yes, I’ve seen you zooming all around those sites adding your comments. Busy, busy!
and yet your avatar looks so laid back
I’ve been thinking about adding the top commentator plugin myself. It’s just a matter of sorting out the sidebars first…
As to your last comment… I think he needs to look at his plugin set ups (especially as the results show up in emails of comments)…
Yeah, for some weird reasonS, my avatar doesn’t work on certain blog though I have updated the best of me..(oh god, you shouldn’t believe it).
Anyway, I wasn’t referring to anyone in particular so don’t get me wrong. I was reading some of the comments on other blogs and when I checked on theirs, nofollow is in place. It’s just so ironical.
I wouldn’t have noticed you if you haven’t been that opinionated. So please don’t change that for anyone..but hey, my opinion doesn’t matter much, does it?
You have a great day, lady.
Yan
Same here with those avatars. My old one appears on some blogs too.
And on this site, avatars all show up in the admin area, but not on the front page - I’ve tried everything to reverse it, but nothing works!
As to the ‘nofollow’ on ‘dofollow’ blogs, I sometimes think it’s down to the plugin used. Maybe there is a posting limit set before comments become ‘dofollow’?
Just a thought…
I thought so..maybe the plugin isn’t working or something but you’ll see quite a number of them actually and you’ll start to think that it isn’t the plugin.
Now with regard to the avatar, if everything else fails, you need to add additional line of code somewhere on the comment.php. I’ll email you the code if you think it;s necessary…
Yan
“you’ll see quite a number of them actually and you’ll start to think that it isn’t the plugin”
I was trying to be diplomatic there
About the avatar, yes Yan, please do email me that code. (I hate messing about with php, but with a ready-made piece of code, that’s fine!)
zania at zaniadultonline dot com -oh it’s on my about page anyway
Hmmmm, I read both the article and the comments with great interest here Zania and you also got a little link love from my good self today too!
So, here is my take on the whole situation. Firstly from a personal perspective. AP is dofollow and has all the link love etc you could imagine. It made PR2 this update and thats ok for me. I spend more time getting links in than I do giving links out and it obviously has had little effect on the amount of commments; I tend not to get much spam either.
I think the whole thing boils down to what your reason for blogging is? If you are throwing up flags left right and centre and trying to game the system in one way or another you are going to get slapped. That is nothing more but a fact of life. Yes, there are things we can do that have an influence, be it negative or positive, on the page rank of our blogs but I for one think people are getting way too hung up on that right now.
Going back to something PB likes to wax lyrical about and that is good, old fashioned organic blogging. Writing because we love to write and because we like to inform our readers of things that they may not know about. Further to that I comment because I wish to add something to the conversation and I respect that people do the same on my site. Do you ever find that if you leave a quality comment on a blog then that blogger will come back and do the same on your site? (other than the A-listers that is).
The fact of the matter is that yes, I could change mine to no follow and hit up a few tricks/tips in order to up my PR but for why? It’s not a money maker! In building a community blog, the old fashioned way, I am pretty positive that I would get the same people leaving the same quality comments and much of that is based on me leaving them quality comments too.
At the end of the day if you write quality content you will get a quality discussion and this post is a fine example that the proof is in the pudding (yes I am trying to fit as many cliches as I can into this reply).
Secondly, non of the above relates to any of my money making sites where I pull out all the stops to gain PR and backlinks; usually using every trick in the book!
One last cliche…..each to their own right???
Thanks AP,
love the cliches
Also agree that everyone is getting much too hung up on PR, but I write about it when it is on the ´discussion agenda´, because this blog is my thoughts about the make money online niche and I pick up on what is going on at the time of writing.
(Although I do think The Affiliate Post will get a higher PR next time around, if you carry on posting more content as you are doing in your ´challenge´)
Do you know, I never even noticed whether your blog was dofollow or not. I went there to read it you see
And yes, if you make a quality comment on a blog, the blogger will often come over to your site and make a quality comment too (and sometimes new readers come over just because they have seen one of your comments on someone else´s blog). And that´s as it should be. All part of good old organic blogging waxed about so lyrically by PB
And in any case, I comment just for the hell of it!
Agreed on your summary of why the AP is dofollow. Thoughts on making money on the net is not a money maker either, but you never know, later on I might just decide to change that in some way. Who knows…?
So yes, to each his (or her…) own.
Hey Zania
There is one article I wrote a month ago on how to add gravatar to your wordpress. The code I’m about to send you can be found on the article.
Here it is
http://thoushallblog.com/how-to-enable-gravatar-without-plugin/
Sorri I forgot about it earlier. Hope it helps…
Yan
Yay! I’ve got avatars!
….. but I’m going over to your blog again because I have a slight problem here….
I hope you are going to get it right on your second attempt. I guess the problem is just the way you float the image to the left.
Let me know if you need anything else..
Yan
Thanks for all your help Yan,
as you can see (I hope!) I have left side avatars and a blog which still works (knock on wood several times!).
Thanks
I’m sold :)) +1
Viva La Evolucion
Google does follow nofollow links contrary to popular belief.