How comments can help when you make money online
When I was writing my post on Can RSS Subscribers help you make money online, I came across an interesting discussion about shared Google Readers and the issue of whether or not comments should be allowed on these, because they will be away from the blog or site they originated from. I’m not going to discuss this now (perhaps later…), but there are some very good links you can start with if you want to check out the debate any further: The Race to Kill Blogging and an older post from TechCrunch Google May Add Comment Feature on Google Reader Feeds
What the discussion made me think about, was the nature of blog comments and whether they are of benefit to someone who wants to make money from their blog, anyone who wants to gain credibility from their blog, or anyone else who simply likes putting their opinion across in a social blog.
Living in Europe, I live in a different time frame from many other bloggers, which can make me a little ‘out of sync’ with blog comments. I can make a comment, but not see it appear until hours later, as the blog author was asleep when I wrote it and is unable to approve (or unapprove) it. My copies of blogs I am subscribed to by email often arrive in my email box while I am asleep, so by the time I go to the other blog to comment, most things have been said (but sometimes I just have to comment anyhow…)
Likewise, when I make a blog post, with a trackback to another blog, it can be many hours before the other blog owner picks it up and, if the post I have made needs answering to ‘put things straight’, then this can leave things hanging for some time when they really need to be said.
Blogging across the internet, to make money or just to share your thoughts to the world, can make the issue of ‘time frames’ a problem, but when it is your blog, at least it gives you time to take stock and control your comments. And it is this matter which I am finally getting around to on this entry!
A blog owner has control of their comments. They decide which comments are shown and which are trashed. They decide whether or not the comment owner’s link is allowed in their signature. They themselves are given time to come up with their answer to the comments. And they can choose to close the comments at any time. Being able to do all these things gives the blog owner complete control of the conversation (I’m omitting to mention scraping here, but that’s a whole different issue).
But once the conversation is taken off the blog in question the owner loses that control. Likewise, in making making comments on other people’s blogs, you lose control of what you have said as this can be interpreted any way the blog owner chooses to do so, including turning the comments off.
Is this a good thing? Well, that is debatable. I’ll give you an example of a subject which is getting rather worn here, but is still quite relevant.
A few weeks ago, Bryan Clark sold One Man’s Goal to a young man called Marc Galeazzi for (what was reported as) ten thousand five hundred dollars. Marc admitted he knew very little about blogging, but was very keen to learn. The result? Bryan was roundly castigated in many places online, the most vociferous attack coming from Victor Franqui, who had earlier given his readers details on how One Mans Goal was failing in December of last year.
Personally, I feel that all the pros and cons of the sale of One Mans Goal will never be revealed. Too much water has gone under the bridge between the sale and now, to prove in any satisfactory way whether Marc got a good deal or not. In that time, those both for and against the transaction and Bryan himself have had time to amass ‘facts and figures’ to answer their particular case.
But what is interesting is that, until recently, only a limited number of ‘facts’ had been revealed. Bryan had come across to Vic’s blog, but had provided no further real data. He had then published a ‘Straight from the Hip‘ article on OMG, saying “it takes a REAL writer to go over the facts and decide for themselves, whether or not what they are reading is true”, but the ‘facts’ he published were still somewhat limited and they left the door wide open to more accusations.
And then Bryan Clark got on with his ’site flipping’ and Marc took over OMG (with, it has to be said, support from Bryan Clark).
But nothing was resolved, including Bryan’s credibility. As he no longer controlled OMG, he could hardly post any more information there about the transaction and, in any case, I reckon as far as he was concerned, why should he? To go over this would not be the way forward for OMG which now had to make its way on the net as a blog with a new owner who needed to establish his ownership and his ‘brand’.
As to Marc Galeazzi, he gained a lot of support because of the negative comments about the sale of OMG. New readers signed up for his RSS feed and commented on his posts. We wanted him to succeed in the light of adversity. But it soon became apparant to most of us that Marc was struggling big time. We offered our comments and some offered to help Marc out directly, but mostly we got silence in return, hardly any comments and a dwindling number of posts.
Then a blog called The Piss Biscuit published an entry called One Mans Goal to One Mans Hope, calling again for Marc to get his act together. Telling him he had a load of support and imploring him to please interact with his readers before it was all too late.
Bryan Clark replied in a way I felt belittled the situation. I hate to see people scammed, even if some would say “they should have known better”. I had followed the OMG sale (and the previous sale). Even before I knew of the existence of Victor Franqui, I had still felt that OMG was not the site to learn anything about making money online, rather the opposite in fact. And I thought that the sale of OMG to someone who may well have ‘an entrepreneurial spirit’, but who knew very little about blogging and the whole make money online blogging world. was not something which could be thrown away as ‘maybe he should have bought a scooter instead’ (said by PB, not Bryan Clark). So I went in there, rather explosively it has to be said, closely followed by Griz, who is much better than me at putting ‘facts and figures’ across.
To cut a long story short (and I could be wrong here as I cannot be all over the net at once), for what could be the first time, when pressed, Bryan Clark gave a much fuller version of what had occured between him and Marc.
Now, whatever I think of the merits of selling a failing Make Money Online blog to someone who has very little knowledge of blogs, leave alone the MMO niche, at least Bryan Clark gave us what many had been wanting to hear and he did that in the comments on the Piss Biscuit site.
Should he have had to do this? Probably not. In the grand scheme of things, we should not have to answer every accusation thrown at us online (and how can we really answer our accusers anyhow when nearly everything online can be faked?). But in this case it was required, not only because Bryan Clark wants to be known as someone who is ’straight up’ when it comes to the truth, but also so that everyone can take what they will from the results and move on.
Had the blog owner of The Piss Biscuit decided to turn off the comments on his blog before the questions and answers had been made, we all would have been left in the dark about many apsects of the sale of OMG. Now we at least have both sides of the story.
When we are trying to make money on the net, we need as many facts as we can get, or we will continue to make the wrong decisions and spend money we can ill afford. Admittedly, we will never get all the ‘facts’ and we have to remain critical of everyone just to try to make sense of the host of different ‘reasons’ they give that something is ‘going to make us money online’. But if having to scour the comments of a blog (and get people to say even a little more about a matter which concerns us) is the way to get more information, then so be it.
As a last remark. I just hope that, after all the extra attention, Marc Galeazzi gets his act together and really tries to make money online, whether on OMG, or on one of his other new sites. He’s got so many people backing him now, all he has to do is take the right advice…






Zania,
Well done article. Yes, I almost yanked the comments but with the advice of a friend, I decided to let things roll and I’m glad I did.
I love your mention of losing control. I thought, I lost control as the discussion became more and more off the topic of Marc’s progress or lack there of.
As for the scooter… LMAO! It was a simple suggestion I’ll stand behind
From an investors point of view, his money COULD have been well spent by taking full advantage of people wanting to see it work out.
Even if someone thinks the blog was not financially worth it… or that they themselves wouldn’t have purchased it… Marc did, and it’s his job to make best use of it. Marc didn’t buy a blog. He bought publicity and that is worth a fortune.
Scooter or a blog. I think the real estate selling, drink slinging, dot com mogul, may have more use for the Scooter right now, which is fine, but later in his online career, he’s going to see the big giant boat he missed. Oh, I even offered to donate hosting to him it would help… no dice there either.
Again awesome article… I stumbled it for ya too!
Hi PB,
I know you offered hosting to him too, but I guess he has that worked out anyhow.
Thanks for the comment.
I thought you would have to say something about the scooter
While I was writing that post I had another look at the recent comments on Marc’s blog and the suggestion that we stop pushing him to produce. I liked your comment and the one by theaffiliatepost in reply.
I’ve seen his other websites by the way and they will take a lot of work… Not sure if he is willing to do that right now…
Oh well, you tried…
Hi Zania,
Nice recap and I like the long posts - lots of food in there for G.
Just thought I would mention that Marc has put up a new post and pretty much dismissed all the comments. Not sure how serious he really is about all this - I get the feeling that people offering him help is in vain but who knows. Curious to hear the reactions though.
Thanks for the nod and I am enjoying your posts. You are a cut above.
Hi Griz,
Thanks for the comment.
Glad you like the long posts. The stupid thing is I can’t help writing them that way even if G didn’t matter (you should have seen the load of stuff I cut out!).
Yes, I had a look at Marc’s latest post too. I’m afraid I just sighed.
There again, you never know….
Zania - Fantastic post. I think I may catch even more flack for standing up for Marc (which seems to be the trend)…
- but I have to do it anyway. I think the new video was the first step he took in the right direction.
It wasn’t until I didn’t have a day job that I was truly able to focus on making money online. And after that, I started to see success. It was moderate at first, but it grew, as did my knowledge.
I’d have to agree with you fully about OMG not being the place to go (when I owned it) if you wanted to make money online. However, I had never really intended for it to be that type of site. I was new to it, so I never really counted on being looked at like an authority figure, which seemed to happen. My goal was just to document my journey when it came to making money online. I felt that it was necessary to pass on what I was learning, hence the noobish content. Yesterday marks my one year mark from the start of my journey… so I’m still pretty new, but I’ve figured out how to make a great living online.
But back to Marc’s video. I think it’s great that he cast off the commenters to a degree. I know they were offering help, but until he figures out what he’s doing, all the help in the world won’t make him much cash. He needs to focus internally right now and really try to obtain all the knowledge he can on the subject, which I think he’s doing to an extent. I think he’s on the right track now.
Hi Bryan,
Thanks for looking in and your comments.
The problem is with making money online blogs, even if you say you are a noobie, people see the words ‘make money’ and they hope you can tell them something new, and if you have an authorative voice, they assume you can.
This blog is set up purely for commentaries on my personal opinion of what goes on in the MMO niche (I make money from other online niches…), but I still get people searching for the ’secret’ to making money online. It comes with the territory I suppose.
I also guess that not many people actually read my posts about taking care when trying to make a living online (they are rather long anyway, so I guess I cannot blame them).
As to Mark’s video, I hope you are right in thinking he is on the right track and that he takes your advice about that domain name. It’s not going to be easy for him though, so I hope he fully realises that too.
Maybe all of his commentators should hold off pushing him now and just let him do a load of research and experimenting and find his pace.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed for him anyhow.
@ Zania: You know I was thinking the same exact thing. That ol’ boy has his work cut out for him. As for my last comment, the guy just must not have a clue how much traffic he could be utilizing. Knock, knock, it’s time you wake up Marc! I bet hit Technorati authority is through the roof too… not that he’s got any intent on using it.
@ Griz: You know the most disturbing thing about it all is? He excused all of the help, critiques, and comments like you said - both motivational and helpful… and instead of addressing those, he busted out with the foul language video and a post about “4-6 day” random romps…
@ Bryan: I’m not sure he knows what track he should even be trying to get back on… so maybe that on its own is the right track. You know as well as anyone how important you blog’s reputation is… he’s gonna learn from his mistakes and hopefully one day write a post about it… then, all this may have been worth it.
Well, looks like OMG has always been the subject of much of debate and discussion long after the sale was completed. With, all the publicity Marc has, it’s sad to know that he is not intent on capitalizing it to the fullest. On last check, his site was down. Oh Marc..
Anyway, I have a good read on your article.
Hi Yan, thanks for your comment.
It was actually your concern for Marc expressed on PB’s site which helped sparked my initial comment there in the first place (sorry about that, but it’s true!).
I thought “this is someone who stands up in the face of those criticising and says their main concern is for Marc - good for you!”
And I agree with you and PB, it’s a shame Marc is not finding ways to take advantage of all the publicity he has received over the sale, but I also guess this can be overwhelming when you try to learn new things and you are being given so much advice. Shame he doesn’t appear to be tryng though…
Yes, I noticed last night (Spain time) OMG was down and it still is now at early evening the next day and I’m wondering why….
A 403 Access denied can mean this:
“If you get a Code 403 “Access Denied” message when you try to post a message or reply, or when you try to access a site, it’s because either you, someone using the IP address you currently have, or someone from your class C IP block has been identified has been banned from accessing the site.”
or, in simple terms, this:
“Usually a 403 Forbidden error means that the page in question does exist but cannot be accessed by you.”
But it could mean this:
“Sometimes webmasters try to set up dynamic web programming features like PHP or Perl/CGI but fail to do so correctly. This can also result in 403 Forbidden errors until the web server is correctly configured.”
I’m hoping it means the latter - that Marc has made mistakes with trying to set something up on OMG - and, if so, someone has told him about this!
Zania, I could have response to your comment earlier if you were to allow your commentator to subscribe to the comment. I guess I forget rather easily where I have left a comment.
Hi again Yan,
I am trying my best to get subscribe to comments on this blog, but so far the plugins have failed me miserably.
At the moment the only way to subscribe to the comments is via the link on the bottom of the blog.
If anyone happens to read this and knows of a plugin that still works in Wordpress 5.1 please let me know
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
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Good post…long, but good. You made some very good observations and I am really curious as to how this Marc guy is getting along at the moment
Yep, JK, I do tend to write long posts…
And don’t forget to check OMG out.
It’s been a bit of a roller coaster ride, as I said..